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Knight Errant: The Kerra Holt Story – SWBTF #46

Knight Errant, John Jackson Miller, Kerra Holt, Sith Space, and how many artists it took to bring it all to life, all on the next Star Wars Beyond the Films. YOUR Star Wars discussion podcast! YOUR ticket to the EU!

This week true believers, Beyonders, Fanboys, Fangirls, respected aliens around the galaxy, your EU Guru; Nathan P. Butler, and The Defender of the EU; Mark Hurliman, sit down to discuss the harrowing trip into the heart of darkness that becomes Kerra Holt’s tale.  So strap in and tighten your crash webbing, Star Wars Beyond the Films is setting off on another rapid-fire trip into the galaxy far, far away!

The hosts layout the stories that build the Knight Errant story. Nathan ponders if Knight Errant could be considered one of the darkest, and most depressing stories of the entire Expanded Universe.

They continue to discuss the art styles used, and how the characters were drawn from issue to issue. Mark likes the fact that the Sith’s history is starting to be explored more and more in the EU.  The setting allows for a darker story than most  story arcs. When the series reached Deluge, drug addiction played into the story, adding an element that hadn’t been seen since Legacy, and Cade Skywalker’s Death Stick addiction. Another Dark Side story brought to you by Dark Horse.

They also discuss John Jackson Miller’s style, and how he threads plots throughout certain series. In fact both felt that Miller still has more story to tell. Perhaps it is too soon to call Knight Errant finished? Your hosts both think so.

In terms of artists, Nathan points out how many different artists were involved with this series, as well as the varying styles from each artist. This isn’t always a good thing; as you will find out.

Nathan also points out that there WAS a model used for Kerra’s likeness back at Celebration V, unlike other works like Dark Empire which seemed to use likenesses such as Bruce Willis. This SHOULD have made Kerra’s look in the comic more concrete, and yet…. it did not.

How well does the Knight Errant novel tie into the comic series and vice-verse? Which arc was best? Which served the overall plot better; the comics, or the book?

They also looked at the covers of the comic series and chose their best and worst of.

Best Cover:
Escape #2

Honorable Mention:
Aflame #3

Looking to buy your own copies?


You can pre-order Vol. 3 today, available April 23, 2013

 

Once again, your dynamic duo ponder entirely too much errant Knight action in their ONE hour, but don’t worry, give it a go; you’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you might even get a little education on the EU while you’re at it. But no matter how you slice it and dice it, you’ll be having another adventure Beyond the Films. So sit back, hang on, enjoy the show, and may the Force be with you!

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A Couple Ole’ Rogues – SWBTF #37

Rogue Squadron! Michael A. Stackpole! X-Wings! Corran & Wedge! All on the next Star Wars Beyond the Films, YOUR Star Wars discussion podcast! YOUR ticket to the EU!

This week true believers, Fanboys, Fangirls, and respected aliens around the galaxy, The Defender of the EU; Mark Hurliman, and your EU Guru; Nathan P. Butler, draft you into the New Republic Starfighter Corps for a test flight with Rogue Squadron. Strap the crash webbing tight cause Mark’s piloting this one!

Focusing on Michael A. Stackpole’s end of the X-Wing series, this week’s episode touches on timeless EU works such as;

  • Star Wars: X-Wing- Rogue Squadron
  • Star Wars: X-Wing- Wedge’s Gamble
  • Star Wars: X-Wing- The Krytos Trap
  • Star Wars: X-Wing- The Bacta War
  • Star Wars: X-Wing- Isard’s Revenge

In fact, your dynamic duo cover too much once again, but don’t worry, give it ago; you’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you might even get a little education on the EU while you’re at it. But no matter how you slice it, you’ll be having another adventure Beyond the Films. So once again, enjoy and may the Force be with you!

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One Sith, Two Sith, Red Sith, Lost Sith (3 of 3) – SWBTF #34

Greetings Fanboys, Fangirls, EU Fans, and returning Beyonders!
And welcome to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

This week true believers, your EU Guru; Nathan P. Butler, and The Defender of the EU; Mark Hurliman, continue on with their look back at John Jackson Miller’s Lost Tribe of the Sith: The Collected Stories. This week they wrap up their three part coverage of the newest premium trade paperback by Del Rey by covering Pandemonium.

We have a winner for our Celebration 6 contest! Marissa (insert last name) Congradulations! The hosts also explain their plan for the next few episodes.

Nathan breaks down where we are in the story, as well as publishing sides of things. Which leads to gripes- and points of view when it comes to gripes- what’s yours?

Size? Price? Characters? Era placement? Something else?

This leads the hosts to discussing e-books and paperbacks as well as collecting and branching out. As well as how this might factor into the publishing side of things.

Do you fear a bait and switch? If you fear that’s the case with the Lost Tribe: The Collected Stories, well the hosts explain why you shouldn’t worry.
Digital concerns lead to reverse comparability and how that might effect you the SWEU reader. Mark still wants to see Del Rey publish a book in Hardcover,

Paperback, Audiobook/ ebook, and all that at once to see just which format readers most prefer.

Jumping into the story- Mark explains his fascination with SWEU Maps, and how he’d have liked one world map just to make understanding content placement better.

The hosts also discuss John Jackson Miller, as well as some of his Mass Effect work, which leads them to again pondering about the new Dark Horse Comics Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral comic series.

Nathan hopes Spiral won’t suffer the Babylon 5-fifth season scenario. (if you have no idea what this means; go watch Babylon 5 you’ll quickly understand when you reach season 5.)

Both hosts were taken back by Quarra’s secret mission is an affair. Could this be the SWEU’s first adultery?

The hosts discuss how John Jackson Miller has a habit of giving readers STRONG Female characters. And he seems to do it well! Keep it up Sir!

This leads to a discussion of Kerra Holt, as well as other prominent characters and moments brought to readers by Mr. Miller. As well as playing with assumptions. The man is king.

Mark discusses scenes that could hold their own. Where action occurs off page but so epic in action it could hold its own as a short story. Unlike some other short stories that were so obscure readers hardly even care.

While some may have felt the series was a collection of “too short” stories, the hosts both felt it worked as a collection, the pacing kept the story moving, if anything it could have even added more stories to the mix; or even a second volume later down the line. Mark explored the ending, how it left him both satisfied, and yet conflicted, wanting more. But how that is NOT a bad thing!

The hosts end with discussing the accessibility of this story compared to the larger EU. Mark dares Del Rey to multi-format release to see if Hardcovers are the real numbers or not. Nathan explains how that might not work.

Another must listen episode with your dynamic duo, way too much to cover in one set of shownotes. So once again, enjoy and may the Force be with you!

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Dawn of the Je’daii – SWBTF #28

Greetings Fanboys, Fangirls, EU Fans, and returning Beyonders!
And welcome to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

This week, true believers, your EU Guru Nathan P. Butler and The Defender of the EU Mark Hurliman, invite you to come on a journey into the far flung past of the Star Wars Expanded Universe as they explore the first arc of the new Dawn of the Jedi series by Dark Horse Comics.

Kicking things off, Mark talks about feeling like Wedge Antilles?! Well, sometimes. Both Nathan and Mark talk about why John Ostrander and Jan Duursema are two of their favorite SWEU creators.

Nathan then breaks down the chronology of the story’s setting. As we know; the printed word isn’t always correct.

Mark ponders if we will get a 0.5 issue as we did with Legacy? In fact, both hosts agree that the Zero and Zero Point Five issues set the tone of new eras very well.

In terms of historical story; are we witnessing the first force war? Mark has mentioned before how Dawn of the Jedi feels like a reboot of what we know about Star Wars, now he explains. No Jedi?! And a Clone Wars tie! (a good one) Mark’s talking circles again; and this week he explains bubbles within bubbles.

Is there something “extra-special” going on, on the planet Thyon?

At last Ashla and Bogen arrive! Not just concepts, but also physical locations.

Nathan runs down some places and people giving a  deeper glimpse into the time period.

Sleeper ships! Good Sith? And the evil Rakata, and their Infinite Empire Tatooine with WATER! Yep, we’ve seen it hinted at. Now witness!

And with an early oceanic Tatooine  we also get the Kumumgah, those even less talked about natives of the planet. These guys eventually become the Tusken Raiders and the Jawas! Maybe we’ll see how?

The hosts also focus on Xesh. Xesh… the Silver Surfer of the SWEU.

Mark fanboys’ out over Jan Duursema’s art.

Balance seems to be the key to the setting of Dawn of the Jedi. Each Je’daii is striving for an internal balance. And the planet Tython seems reacts to that balance as well. Xesh’s arrival sent the whole planet into huge Force Storm chaos.

See anything similar in the Je’daii Code with both the Jedi and Sith Codes?

The Je’daii oath:

There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no fear; there is power.
I am the heart of the Force.
I am the revealing fire of light.
I am the mystery of darkness
In balance with chaos and harmony,
Immortal in the Force.

The guys talk tech, samurai like swords, and Rakatan technology.

Another unique thing about this series and it’s tech; no lightsabers… well a Forcesaber. Rakatan tech has a very unique look to it, from the Forcesaber to the Star Forge.

Mark even mentions Star Wars: Riptide’s use of Rakatan tech, and how ironic it is that the Dark Side is what inspired the lightsaber.

Mark digs the sleeper ships and the way they were worked into the story. As well as the old naval feel of most the ships seem in the Zero issue.

Nathan discovers that Spanish has some ancient Sith in it. Hola if you feel me!
And please; tell us if you’ve heard that a Bazillion times before. ;) Ah Earthizms.

The guys run down the many various Kesh’s and how they function. Is this like Force College? How can I earn my Force Major?

Kesh, Crech, or Zesh? Turns out Xesh is pronounced Zesh.

Daegan…. What will he do, and how will it affect the story?

Where are we gonna go next? We later learned at San Diego Comic Con that there will be a Dawn of the Jedi novel soon to come! Into the Void.

Could Xesh be a redeemable character? His story will shed a lot of insight into the Rakatan’s ways. Any way you slice it, it’s going to be a wild time in a new era!

 

So much to discuss this week, so sit back, relax, and enjoy this week’s Star Wars Beyond the Films!

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Darth Maul: Underworld Crime Lord?

 

The return of Darth Maul to the land of the living has opened  up a tremendous number of storytelling possibilities for The Clone Wars series.  In Maul, George Lucas and Dave Filoni have reintroduced a character that brings with him the cache of being not only a film character, but also a character unlike most in the films in that he has an unknown fate.  The possibilities for Maul run the gamut from being killed early next season to surviving the Clone Wars and becoming a Yoda-like Sith hermit somewhere in the galaxy.

Our friends at Knights Archive posted an article about a new Scholastic book that may shed some light on Darth Maul’s plan and the direction the character is going to go.   Targeted at kids age 8 to 12, Scholastic’s Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy is a 160 page book due out this September.  The summary (at Edelweiss) for the book reads as follows:

For the first time ever, Scholastic is publishing Star Wars Clone Wars… based off the hit Cartoon Network TV show, viewed by over 2.4 million every week!
Our story will follow the highly anticipated return of Darth Maul–the infamous villain of Episode I: The Phantom Menace–whose popularity rivals that of Boba Fett. When Darth Maul reunites with his brother, Savage Opress, can even Obi-Wan Kenobi stop him before he rallies the criminal underworld to his cause?

What is this talk about the criminal underworld?  For further clarification we  headed over to Amazon.com to see if they had the same or a different description;

For the first time ever, Scholastic is publishing Star Wars Clone Wars… based off the hit Cartoon Network TV show, viewed by over 2.4 million every week!
Waiting on details from LucasFilms regarding Season 5, but the novel will feature the highly anticipated return of Darth Maul, the villain of Episode I’s Phantom Menace, whose popularity rivals that of Boba Fett.

If you take Amazon’s description specifically mentioning “Season 5″ and Edelweiss’s description hinting at events we have yet to see, and combine that with the fact that the book will be released in the same month that the Season Premiere of Season Five will air, it is pretty clear that Scholastic may have dropped a major plot point from Season Five.

Before we get in to my wild speculation about where this story could go, I think it is useful to take a little bit of perspective on the history of Darth Maul and the history of George Lucas’s interest and involvement in the Expanded Universe, The Clone Wars, and the Live-Action Series.  Based on anecdotes about Mr. Lucas, we know that he is focused on the stories that he personally crafts and tells in the Star Wars universe.  While his company licenses and produces a plethora of EU works under the Star Wars brand, it is not like he is reading and approving every book written.  It is also true that we have heard on multiple occasions that he enjoys the comics and from time to time will borrow an idea or look for something from the comics.

There are two significant stories that I believe Mr. Lucas had a larger hand in crafting than the standard EU fare.  Those would be 1996′s multimedia campaign around Shadows of the Empire and 2008′s The Force Unleashed.  Shadows of the Empire was significant for a number of reasons. The story itself was set between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi so it had to fit in with Lucas’ vision of those stories.  Shadows was also a bit of a trial balloon to gauge fan interest in Star Wars before the 1997 release of the Special Editions of the original trilogy and the 1999 release of the Phantom Menace beginning the prequel trilogy.  It makes sense that Lucas had a strong hand in the project, but it was author Steve Perry (among others) who crafted the specifics of the story.  As Steve Perry explained in an interview with EUCantina.net;

EUC: Let’s move on to specific projects: Mr. Perry, what can you tell us about being involved in the Shadows of the Empire Media Event? Mr. Reaves, what can you tell us about working on Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, as Darth Maul is such a mysterious character ?

SP: SOTE was a test-run by Lucasfilm, designed to see how such a multimedia project would work, during the time before the second set of movies. A very collaborative effort, which was laid out during a meeting at Skywalker Ranch, wherein a bunch of us sat down and hammered out a storyline, then parsed it out — I took notes, then went home and wrote an outline upon which the novel, comics, games, toys, etc. were based. It was a lot of fun, and I got to play with the original cast, plus come up with some interesting EU characters.

Lucas also had a large role in The Force Unleashed and that story and game’s development.  The video below goes in depth on Lucas’s role in the story of the secret apprentice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vVBcKas3A&feature

Then of course there is the currently on hold Live-Action Series which already has a full season of scripts written.  With the working title of Star Wars: Underworld, the Live-Action Series is suppose to focus on the seedier side of the galaxy during the rise of the Empire.  Notice the connection between Shadows of the Empire and the Live-Action Series.  It seems like criminals and scoundrels have a fairly large part to play in Star Wars, but we will get back to that in a minute. In terms of The Clone Wars, we know that George Lucas has a very strong hand in the show, and while Dave Filoni is the supervising director and the show runner, Lucas is present at story conferences where stories are “broken” and many ideas are developed.  This can be seen in behind the scenes clips released as well as numerous comments by Filoni and other TCW staff members.

Lucas has set up a story in TCW where we know have Sidious in control of the Republic, his apprentice Count Dooku leading the Separatists in this charade.  We also have Sidious’ eye on a potential new apprentice in Anakin, two former apprentice’s of Dooku in Asajj Ventress and Savage Opress and a former apprentice of Sidious in Darth Maul.  This is a lot of Sith or would be Sith for the Rule of Two to attempt to contain. At this point there is no reason to believe that Sidious knew that Maul survived, but that is possible. Operating on the assumption that Maul is now a wild sabacc card that doesn’t fit in with Sidious’ plans, then it would make sense that there isn’t a place for Maul at Sidious’ side.  Count Dooku certainly wouldn’t react well to his Master’s previous student returning and seeking to usurp his position.  Sidious may also be reluctant to accept Maul back into the fold.

Actor Sam Witwer has been making the media rounds giving interviews to promote Darth Maul’s return.  Christian Blauvelt of Entertainment Weekly got some interesting quotes from Witwer regarding Maul’s future.

You won’t necessarily see all the layers of the character right away, it takes time to unravel. I don’t think I’m spoiling too much when I say that he’s going to be around for a little bit. You will see a lot more of him going forward than you would have expected.

There are major consequences for Darth Maul being reintroduced to the Star Wars galaxy. This guy doesn’t just show up, wave his lightsaber around, have a few mean lines here and there, then pass into obscurity. He makes a major splash in the Clone Wars, and it’s entirely consequential the things that he’s up to and tries to accomplish.

That goal of revenge is not something that goes away, but what does change is how he’s going to go about it. And some of that involves Asajj Ventress. You’ve seen her become a bounty hunter. But Darth Maul would never become a bounty hunter. He’s way too ambitious for that. He was trained as a Sith Lord and that’s what he wants to be… But the revenge that Maul wants starts out very straightforward — I’ll lock lightsabers with Obi-Wan Kenobi! — but then it becomes a lot more complicated. Simple revenge isn’t good enough. It’s gotta be grand revenge, on a huge scale, and the galaxy’s going to know about it.

Some of Darth Maul’s past may point to what he may do in Season Five. At the end of Season Three when they telegraphed the return of Darth Maul, my initial thought was that Maul and Opress would combine with Mother Talzin and the Nightsisters to form another base of power in the galaxy to throw a wrench in Sidious’ plans.  In Season Four we saw the Nightsisters (except for Mother Talzin) wiped out by General Grievous and his droid army, so this potential power base has been removed from Maul.  There is another possibility that Scholastic may be hinting at in their book description however.

In 2000 Dark Horse Comics published Star Wars: Darth Maul, a comic series about Maul’s mission to decapitate the Black Sun criminal organization’s leadership.  Black Sun was the entity created by Steve Perry for Shadows of the Empire with Prince Xizor at its head.  Maul: “Do you wish Black Sun destroyed utterly?”Sidious: “No. One day it might prove useful to me, For now it must be thrown into disarray so it cannot threaten our designs.” In Black Sun we have an as yet unexplored base of power, thrown into disarray by Maul’s slaughter of the Vigos, Black Sun may be ripe for Maul to assert control over the organization.  While we have seen criminals, smugglers and bounty hunters explored in TCW series we have yet to see Black Sun appear on the show in any form.  If Maul is going to be rallying the “criminal underworld to his cause,” what better place to start then Black Sun?  By uniting Black Sun and other criminal operations under his control, Maul has the opportunity make a much bigger impact in the galaxy. It may be that Black Sun and the criminal underworld was a backup plan for Sidious, an external threat he could use to justify centralizing more power or more military buildup if the Separatist plan didn’t work correctly or was cut short by the premature death or capture of Dooku and Grievous.

In Revenge we see that Maul knew about the Grand Plan and the planned Clone Wars when he sighs and says “Oh yes, so it began without me.”  If Maul knew about the backup plan then perhaps he knew about other back up plans or could at least extrapolate based on Sidious comments what his intentions might be.  In a very in depth interview on The ForceCast, Sam Witwer discusses just how smart Maul is and how much  he would have learned as the apprentice of Sidious.  There is a nice symmetry to the idea that Maul who was found in the trash on Lotho Minor, could rise to power again atop a heap of criminal trash and villainy.  King of the Underworld may not be as good as Galactic Emperor, but it’s better than nothing.

As Darth Plagueis said, “You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another, then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species… finally, the galaxy itself.”  In Revenge we saw Maul gain power over himself through his healing, in Season Five we could see him gain power over another in Savage and possibly over a group in the attracting the criminal underworld to his banner.

~ Peter Morrison