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Book Review: ‘Star Wars: Crucible’

Title: Star Wars: Crucible
Author: Troy Denning
Release Date: July 9th, 2013

Warning: This review may contain minor spoilers.

Where to even begin? I blame myself for how I feel about this book. I was so excited for it.
Too excited.
Han, Luke, and Leia together again on an adventure? This was going to be like old times. But it wasn’t. It was more of what we have gotten recently from the trio’s ongoing story.

Let’s look at the official synopsis before we get too deep.

Han Solo, Leia Organa Solo, and Luke Skywalker return in an all-new Star Wars adventure, which will challenge them in ways they never expected—and forever alter their understanding of life and the Force.

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Tribal Sith Spiraling – SWBTF #58

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Tribal Sith, Dark Jedi, Sith Lords, Leviathans, and more, all on the next Star Wars Beyond the Films. YOUR Star Wars discussion podcast! YOUR ticket to the EU!

This week true believers, Beyonders, Fanboys, Fangirls, respected aliens around the galaxy, The Defender of the EU; Mark Hurliman, and your EU Guru; Nathan P. Butler, sit down to discuss Dark Horse Comic’s latest foray into the Star Wars Expanded Universe; Star Wars: Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral. Strap in and tighten your crash webbing Fandom, Star Wars Beyond the Films is setting off on another rapid-fire trip into the galaxy far, far away!

Jumping in Nathan has more details about the Heir to the Empire Contest, and announces our winner, as well as announces a NEW CONTEST.

How does Spiral tie into the events of Fate of the Jedi? Stay tuned to find out!

Once again, your dynamic duo cover entirely too much Keshiri action in their ONE hour, but don’t worry, give it a go; you’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you might even get a little education on the EU while you’re at it. But no matter how you slice it and dice it, you’ll be having another adventure Beyond the Films. So sit back, hang on, enjoy the show, and may the Force be with you!

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Fate of the EU… Uh, Jedi – SWBTF #21

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Welcome back to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

EDITORS NOTE: Ahead there be spoilers…. consider this your warning!
This week Mark and Nathan are joined by Intrepid Bothan Reporter and Lightsaber Rattling Jedi, Peter Morrison, to discuss the Fate of the Jedi series as a whole.

Mark ponders the excerpt at the start and end of the series and it’s possible ramifications.

The guys hit the plot in a nut shell to set the tone of the episode and then break down the series from there.
The series has an odyssey feel to it, while also telling a multitude of stories all enterweaved to make up a bigger overall story.
Jacen’s past was explored. Or was it? Was Abeloth TOO POWERFUL? Did Luke need an enemy more powerful than even him?

Nathan takes a moment to show his brotherly side. Did FotJ suffer an identity crisis?
Mortis makes its way into the series and the guys ponder how much Lucas knew of the plot. How much of this was made up on the spot? Nathan brings up the recent Insider interviews with the FOTJ authors.
He also ponders if the publishing group has changed the game plan and shifted to a looser planning style?
Did this allow for a more interchangable author feel to the series? Did that play into the success of Christie Golden stepping into Karen Traviss’s slot? Had Abeloth been Lucas approved would she have been the”Mother” in all respects? Instead of some being trying to be like them? Did Jacen’s story get resolved?
Peter proposes that the series might have done better had Abeloth been left out and the Lost Tribe been the main villian. Perhaps give her a stand alone book?
Mark ponders (or possibly rants) that Abeloth had to have hedged her bets and had a spare possessed body out there hidden away.
The guys focus on the pacing of the series. It almost made each book read like a stand alone. Was this a mistake? Should longer series be set to release closer together vs being spread out?
The Krayt factor: Was it or was it not Darth Krayt at the end of the story who came to Luke’s aide? Seems Denning doesn’t even know and he wrote the scene….
SPOILER WARNING: So in the end they stop Abeloth (for now) but in doing so have put back on the throne the dark man whom Jacen stopped which kicked everything off in the first place. Kind of crazy huh? But didn’t Jacen’s destroying Centerpoint Station cause her to get free? Wait, but wasn’t that ordered by Luke?
So did this give us closure? Or an open plot thread awaiting a crafty author later?
What? Nathan gets political with his satire? But it was necessary to understand the plot of FOTJ.
FotJ makes Dark Nest more meaningful to the SWEU.

Celestial, the Ones, and so much left open…. was this a good thing?? Bad thing? Or a GREAT Thing?
Random Mark ponder: Will Shelter be used to keep Beyond Shadows and the Mind Walker plots going?
They discuss Beyond Shadows, the Font of Power as well as the Lake of Apparitions, as well as Sith Spirits, Force Ghosts, Force Apparitions, Force Entities, and so forth.
This leads to pondering the “next generation” of Jedi. And how the Big 3’s story has overshadowed the newer Jedi’s individual stories.
Should the Jedi have destroyed the Font of Power? Is this something that should have been taken out? A weapon of Jedi Destruction….
Nathan touches on Ben and Vestara’s love plot. But not in a Tahiri touching kind of way…. …which leads to Vestara’s character growth throughout the series, dispite her Sithly Father’s pressures during the series.
Will this make Ves drop out of the saga? Or will the One Sith make an appearance BEFORE Legacy? (Even though it would happen after Legacy was published.)
Jaina Solo’s character grew a lot by the series end.  Even Tahiri had her character go through a lot of changes. Especially in light of past series directions with her character. We almost had our Imperial Knights!

The personal relationships were well executed. All the hosts agree that was a very strong point for the series.
Anakin Skywalker CAUSED the imbalance?! Wait… say again? So does that mean Luke and Ben are the Chosen Ones per Lucas before Mortis? This leads the hosts to discuss Balance and what that means for a bit.

Nathan had a very interesting outlook on it. Or at least gives EU Fans OPTIONS. Or was this addition to the FotJ plot a huge mistake? Or one to come?

Mark takes a minute to have a fan crush moment about the Horn family

Were the Barabels the ‘sleeper agents’ of the whole series?
Allana’s back in the open. They developed her up to own her own portion of the next generation of characters. She and Ben could have been 3rd generation, but ended up growing into the 2nd.
Does judging children characters age vary from person to person?
The hosts also judge the series, and give it a 1-10 ranking and a one word description.
And sit back after the credits for a Marvel treat… erm.. we mean bloopers!

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Future of the SWEU – SWR #46

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Hey there, welcome back to another episode of the Star Wars Report podcast.

 

It’s just me (Riley) and Mark this time! We’ve been very busy painting the house this week but not too busy to sit down for an hour and talk some Star Wars!

We talked about next week’s LIVE AOTC commentary, Chris Smith’s really cool Kickstarter project, and much more!

I’m considering running a marathon this fall and we brainstormed how to StarWarsify it up just little.

And lastly, we talked about the Fate of the Jedi wrapping up, how Del Rey might move forward, and the future of the SWEU!

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Apocalypse 2012…. – SWBTF #20

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Welcome back to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

This week the guys explore the final chapter of the Fate of the Jedi series.
Was adding Mortis into the plot a good or bad thing?
How does one stop the multiple man?  (Abeloth)
Did the series get the closure it needed with Apocalypse?
Quick show of hands: who freaked out when Mortis was mentioned?

And to commemorate Nathan’s 10th anniversary in Star Wars podcasting, a contest is running on the Facebook page and Twitter feed for the show to win a signed copy of Nathan’s novel Greater Good! See nathanpbutler.com for details.

Nathan finally likes Killiks? Uh oh, it IS a sign of the Apocalypse! The Killiks were used in a great way. Not only did it work for the story, and series, it also makes Dark Nest more vital to the over all plot.
Some plots were purposly left open, and this can be both a good and bad thing.
Was Denning messing with Traviss with the direction he took Fett in the series?

The Barabels…. are they the Trojan Horse of the Jedi temple?

Was the length and pacing the cause of most readers negative perceptions of the plot? Did some elements take too long while others were too fast? Should the series have been longer or shorter?
Will Mortis turn into another Even Piel? Was the addition of Mortis George Lucas approved?
Should the author line up been shifted?
Did Denning know if Krayt was the Dark Man? Or is he just messing with the fans by saying they didn’t know?
Does the Imperial plot pay off? Or is it left too wide open for future stories?
Han dies!?!!! Let Mark explain….
Wynn Drovan is he like the Riddler of the Star Wars universe? Nathan talks about that. And, in the end was it really the “Apocalypse”?

The Ten Knights: Mark’s really looking forward to their story!
Was the end of the book talking about Jaina? Or Abeloth?
Will we ever get stories that take place in the gaps created in the last few series? After all, there are enough gaps to fit a few mini series into the holes.
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