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The Man, the Myth, the Revan – SWBTF #65

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Revan’s Fate, The Emperor’s past revealed, Mandalore’s Mask found, the Exile named, and more, all on the next Star Wars Beyond the Films. YOUR Star Wars discussion podcast! YOUR ticket to the EU!

This week true believers, Beyonders, Fanboys, Fangirls, respected aliens around the galaxy, The Defender of the EU; Mark Hurliman, and your EU Guru; Nathan P. Butler, sit down to explore The Old Republic: Revan. So strap in and tighten your crash webbing Fandom, Star Wars Beyond the Films is setting off on another rapid-fire trip into the galaxy far, far away!

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Getting Tribal (2 of 3) – SWBTF #33

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Greetings Fanboys, Fangirls, EU Fans, and returning Beyonders!
And welcome to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

This week true believers, The Defender of the EU; Mark Hurliman, and your EU Guru; Nathan P. Butler, continue on their merry adventure unlike any other. You’re invited as they discuss the next four (e)books of John Jackson Miller’s Lost Tribe of the Sith: The Collected Stories in part two of their three part coverage of the newest premium trade paperback by Del Rey.

Mark and Nathan discuss maps, as well as the choice to keep the second map tucked away mid book. Mark gushes about the Tolkien-feel to having the maps in his SWEU books. As well as if he could ask Mr Miller some questions about envisioning Kesh.

Nathan touches on the cover images of the ebooks. Mark mentions the older books would do that with their series. Nathan sets the dates as well as touches on other SWEU works in play at that time. You know… the basics.

A tie to Star Wars: Vector? Wait…

Covenant, Lucien Draay. the fate fo the Galaxy…. you know… again those basics. Nathan also explains how Sentinel has a jump that falls under a new year, and why.

How many stories are their? 4? 3? 5? Well… couldn’t that be a point of view thing…

Who found the next four books more boring? Who enjoyed the ride more? You’ll want to tune in!

Yaru Korsin…. the Darth Bane of his time.

Nathan makes some Game of Thrones comparisons while exploring timing of the book. The hosts cover the “need” to connect things, and how John Jackson Miller handles it well.

Mark’s internet connection gets attacked!

Sides, whose side do you side with? If you had to pick sides…. Nathan discusses the concept.

And don’t forget to check out Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral when you finish up reading The Lost Tribe of the Sith: The Collected Stories! The hosts discuss some of the first issue and how it could play out in conjunction with the collected stories.

Hilts- what do you think: more like Luke? Or Indiana Jones?

Does Hilt’s changes to the Tribe’s way of doing things eventually get undone off the page? Nathan points out that there are 3,000 years to play with.

Another week with too much to discuss in one episode! Be sure to stay tuned as next week the guys cover Pandemonium!

You also have until the start of Celebration VI (8/23/12) to like our Facebook page for a chance to win Mark’s (once-read) hardcover of Star Wars: Fatal Alliance. On the first day of Celebration VI, one of our “Facebook friends” will be chosen at random to win!

Another must listen episode with your dynamic duo, way too much to cover in one set of shownotes. So once again, the guys will be spreading this great book over another episode! Enjoy and may the Force be with you!

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Big Three? Or Not Big Three? – SWBTF #16

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Welcome back to Star Wars Beyond the Films, your weekly look at the Star Wars expanded universe!

On this episode the guys talk about what’s new, including Blue Rebels?!

Baby Jaina is all cuteness with dad’s saber.

Both hosts will have to rearrange or purchase new book shelves in order to hold their whole Star Wars media collection! Here’s Mark’s shelf.

Images of Nathan’s EU collection can be found here, though he has yet to finish purchasing and arranging his collection.

Move over Garibaldi, Star Wars will be taking over your space on the wall!

Is Star Wars viable with EU only characters? And can the Saga use non film characters and thrive? Or even survive?
Should new characters get more page time, or less? Corran Horn finds some page love in Apocalypse.

The Old Republic is a prime example of new characters. Jaden Korr, and other game characters have been featured prominently in single novels.

Wedge Antilles was a minor film character who’s character was featured greatly in the EU.
Can Del Rey play off the younger generation?
Nathan mentions Scourge and talks about how the publisher entices readers.

Mark has a man crush on Corran Horn, and he’s not a film character, or even a main character in the EU, like Jacen or Jaina Solo.

The potential for great stories is ever present in the ever expanding Star Wars universe.

Red Harvest was a great stand alone that did just that: stood completely alone. No known character was used, and it was set in its own timeframe.
They pause and talk about TOR, the comic and it’s book and how that factors into the over all saga.
Nathan says the 5 words that kill Mark “I don’t care about K’kruhk”
This sets Mark off in a rant about K’kruhk being back in the Order since the end of the New Jedi Order.

Dawn of the Jedi – could this be your reboot series?

Do most stand alone books cover game characters vs newly invented ones? For instance Jaden Korr and Revan vs Corran Horn and Ganner Rhysode.
Is it time for Yoda’s force ghost to make an appearance?

Also, is Jaina on equal footing with the big three? How will they phase the big three out? Eventually they’ll be too old to continue to realistically use… And, what does a post Apocalypse EU look like?
From what readers DO KNOW from the Legacy comic series, readers know some of the direction.
Have characters been killed off for ratings? Was Jacen’s character prematurely killed off?
At some point the big three will have to bow out, period. And wouldn’t that scenario be very hard to market?

Is Darth Vader shoehorned into the EU between Episode three and four? The Clone Wars seems to be having a hard time with cramming in the story-line as well. Settings in the eras farthest from that bright center (the films) seem to be the best place to use non film characters.
Nathan and Mark also discuss the cancelation of Blood Oath and fan reactions to that.

Ahsoka is comes very close to being a canon main character, and she came fairly late to Star Wars, publishing wise.

Your hosts also talk about Maul as a recurring character….

And Nathan starts the doomsday clock of the Saga…..

Wouldn’t it be nice to have an EU tv series? Something like: X-Wing: Wraith Squadron coming to television soon! Ahh Mark really gets onto the loving of Wedge Antilles bandwagon.

Should we have more book trailers?

Mark looks at the New Jedi Order and how it was a series made up of standalones and doulogies and trilogies, not just one big series even though that was how it was marketed.

Should the line up of authors from the Legacy of the Force series to the Fate of the Jedi series have been rotated? When books/authors don’t line up it sometimes brings the reader out of the story, and it translates to series as well.

They guys finish by reminding themselves that they love the saga, and that some times concern and passion can be seen as being negative. Sometimes it just shows you care.

After all, the hosts want their children and their children’s children to be having fun with old and new Star Wars adventures to read and watch.

We hope you enjoy this episode, and may the Force be you, always!

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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic War – #1 Review

Happy Birthday John Jackson Miller! Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic – War #1 (of five) hit the stands yesterday! You remember that little comic strip right? Knights of the Old Republic? That comic set before the games of the same name. Well, after fifty issues it’s back, and back with a BANG!

Mandalorians! They are everywhere! And what’s worse, they are winning! This is what spurs many Jedi into defying the Jedi Council and ‘covertly’ going to war. Typical to the series, Zayne Carrick finds himself in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then has a series of similar encounters with fate. While the story is Zayne’s, he’s not the only one. The Mandalorians themselves were a huge part of the story. Maybe it’s the uniformity of the Neo-Crusader uniforms most of the Mando’ade are wearing, but they are a threat that has to be reckoned with. Though as one character shows us, not all ways of coming to a reckoning are morally right. Dallan Morvis, ahh Dorvis. Still a jerk. And for a first issue, they really drive that point home! He is certainly no hero! His type of personality is key to the events of this story, however, and The Mandalorian Wars were not pretty. Hence the reason so many Jedi falling to the dark side along with Revan and Malak.

We met Jedi fighting the good fight, most notable among them Dorjander Kace. I liked him, disliked him, and liked him again, and wound up LOVING HIM. This character’s journey seems to jump right off in this issue, and it allowed for some personal character philosophy for the reader with the different points of view on the issue confronting the galaxy…. What do we do with the Mandalorians?

Just when we think we have an idea of where events will carry history, we learn that the Mandalorians have sprung a trap. But that’s not the best part, which is…. *pause for dramatic effect*  The Mandalorian Knights!

Yes, you heard me correctly.
Mandalorian….
Knights.

But these Rogue Jedi are none other than Kace and his group. Volunteers to the Mandalorian side, and now captors of Morvis’s crew, Morvis and Zayne. What’s it like to be drafted by the Mando’ade? Well we’re going to have to wait for issue two of this five part adventure to know for sure! One thing is certain, things have become a lot more interesting. This is one addition to the Star Wars Expanded Universe you will want to follow!

~ Mark