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Crosscurrent & Riptide – SWBTF #31

Greetings Fanboys, Fangirls, EU Fans, and returning Beyonders!
And welcome to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

This week, true believers, The Defender of the EU Mark Hurliman, and your EU Guru Nathan P. Butler, take you on an adventure unlike any other, as they explore Paul S. Kemp’s Jaden Korr novels; Crosscurent, and Riptide. Spoilers ahead.

One Sith- the hosts both agree they want more! Which quickly leads them to ponder were these two books meant to be a duology? They sure work like one. And work well together.

Clones- such a staple of Star Wars and yet there is still so much about the process that isn’t set in stone. Story potential could be lurking on the horizon.

The guys discuss Force Lightning, and the Jedi’s use of it. Intentions and all that.

Speaking of Force Lightning- was this one of the many doors that lead to the Great Schism between the films and the EU? Which leads to the ponder of torturing a person by keeping them alive…. All these dark activities.

While talking dark Mark discusses how the end of Crosscurent started to take on a Deathtroopers flavor. Which leads him to gushing about Jedi of Old meeting up with Luke’s Order Jedi- which brings him back to dreams of K’kruhk showing up in a book someday.

Did anyone else catch the Faal/ Fel connection? Was there one?

Should there ever be a Jedi Punisher? Or would that by default cause said Jedi to no longer be a Jedi?

The hosts discuss the character dynamics of the relationships of the main characters, but forget to touch on the running joke of Caf & Chew Stims!

Marr: Jedi Rainman

Moving into Riptide, they discuss the clones more, Mara, Lessin, Lumiya, and Solusar clones and followed by clones of Kyle Katarn, and Jaden Korr, so much still left open for more story potential.

Nyss… if ever a creepy character that flies in the face of what we thought we knew.

Is Jaden the modern version of Jacen’s vision in the New Jedi Order? Does fate have more to tell?

The use of Rakatan technology was interesting. It’s use was just plain mind boggling….

Could Jaden be the star of a larger series? What do the One Sith have planned? What are the ramifications of the end of Riptide?

Mark relates the identity crisis of the cloning to Spider-man’s Clone Saga with Peter Parker and his clone Ben Reilly as they each thought the other was the original and later the clone. Which leads the hosts to explore identity crisis with clones in the Star Wars Saga. Nathan compares it to The Force Unleashed’s story with Galen Starkiller. A lot of deep thoughts!

Another must listen episode with your dynamic duo. Enjoy and may the Force be with you!

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Dawn of the Je’daii – SWBTF #28

Greetings Fanboys, Fangirls, EU Fans, and returning Beyonders!
And welcome to Star Wars Beyond the Films!

This week, true believers, your EU Guru Nathan P. Butler and The Defender of the EU Mark Hurliman, invite you to come on a journey into the far flung past of the Star Wars Expanded Universe as they explore the first arc of the new Dawn of the Jedi series by Dark Horse Comics.

Kicking things off, Mark talks about feeling like Wedge Antilles?! Well, sometimes. Both Nathan and Mark talk about why John Ostrander and Jan Duursema are two of their favorite SWEU creators.

Nathan then breaks down the chronology of the story’s setting. As we know; the printed word isn’t always correct.

Mark ponders if we will get a 0.5 issue as we did with Legacy? In fact, both hosts agree that the Zero and Zero Point Five issues set the tone of new eras very well.

In terms of historical story; are we witnessing the first force war? Mark has mentioned before how Dawn of the Jedi feels like a reboot of what we know about Star Wars, now he explains. No Jedi?! And a Clone Wars tie! (a good one) Mark’s talking circles again; and this week he explains bubbles within bubbles.

Is there something “extra-special” going on, on the planet Thyon?

At last Ashla and Bogen arrive! Not just concepts, but also physical locations.

Nathan runs down some places and people giving a  deeper glimpse into the time period.

Sleeper ships! Good Sith? And the evil Rakata, and their Infinite Empire Tatooine with WATER! Yep, we’ve seen it hinted at. Now witness!

And with an early oceanic Tatooine  we also get the Kumumgah, those even less talked about natives of the planet. These guys eventually become the Tusken Raiders and the Jawas! Maybe we’ll see how?

The hosts also focus on Xesh. Xesh… the Silver Surfer of the SWEU.

Mark fanboys’ out over Jan Duursema’s art.

Balance seems to be the key to the setting of Dawn of the Jedi. Each Je’daii is striving for an internal balance. And the planet Tython seems reacts to that balance as well. Xesh’s arrival sent the whole planet into huge Force Storm chaos.

See anything similar in the Je’daii Code with both the Jedi and Sith Codes?

The Je’daii oath:

There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no fear; there is power.
I am the heart of the Force.
I am the revealing fire of light.
I am the mystery of darkness
In balance with chaos and harmony,
Immortal in the Force.

The guys talk tech, samurai like swords, and Rakatan technology.

Another unique thing about this series and it’s tech; no lightsabers… well a Forcesaber. Rakatan tech has a very unique look to it, from the Forcesaber to the Star Forge.

Mark even mentions Star Wars: Riptide’s use of Rakatan tech, and how ironic it is that the Dark Side is what inspired the lightsaber.

Mark digs the sleeper ships and the way they were worked into the story. As well as the old naval feel of most the ships seem in the Zero issue.

Nathan discovers that Spanish has some ancient Sith in it. Hola if you feel me!
And please; tell us if you’ve heard that a Bazillion times before. 😉 Ah Earthizms.

The guys run down the many various Kesh’s and how they function. Is this like Force College? How can I earn my Force Major?

Kesh, Crech, or Zesh? Turns out Xesh is pronounced Zesh.

Daegan…. What will he do, and how will it affect the story?

Where are we gonna go next? We later learned at San Diego Comic Con that there will be a Dawn of the Jedi novel soon to come! Into the Void.

Could Xesh be a redeemable character? His story will shed a lot of insight into the Rakatan’s ways. Any way you slice it, it’s going to be a wild time in a new era!


So much to discuss this week, so sit back, relax, and enjoy this week’s Star Wars Beyond the Films!

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